I notice you didn't mention Phickle Philly Phans.
Dolan's decision-making has been questionable and his apparent philosophy for running the team has been a poor foundation for those decisions much of the time. However he has a couple of problems worth noting. First, as CEO of the Knicks, he has not developed a culture or system that fosters a championship mentality, although last year I think he tried. Second, he is in a market of extremely high expectations and extremely low results magnify the futility. New Yorkers, as a group, not those who live, love and understand basketball, would not have tolerated the LeBron Heat losing in their first season. New York would have had little patience with the pre-Garnett years of Ainge incompetence or even the futility of Larry Bird.
Dolan makes decisions based on short term strategic planning. He seems to always be racing time and rarely taking the time to develop a team. This year promises to be more of the same, but it is certainly a better brand of ball than in the recent past.
Was there ever a group of fans more loyal than BK Dodger fans?I know, don't ask that question in Boston or Chi-town.True most of those Bk fans are either very old or dead.But their replacements aren't,The Knix have won nuttin' since Dolanite took over the team.They ain't winnin' anything anytime soon.Ask Carmelo why he's got his bag packed?If BK wins this thing of ours any time soon, the NYC fans, mostly front-running no-nothings will fly out of the woodwork swearing eternal allegiance.But what happened in ChiTown post 23?.Most Garden fans aren't any different.The fans that know and love the game can respect a NYC team no matter what boro they play in.The exceptions are fans who support their teams no matter what.If you were there in 70 and 73 that's understandable.The heart wants what it wants. Most NYers just want to worship at the feet of a winner.They'll never understand the concrete heart of the City Game.
@Knicks FanaticMr. Fanatic. Whaddup!
I like the following lines: "Dolan makes decisions based on short term strategic planning. He seems to always be racing time and rarely taking the time to develop a team."
The first line sounds sorta contradictory short term and strategy for an endeavor as significant- for sports enthusiast and bball die hards- as NY's flag ship basketball team. Those sorta creatures require a long term approach. My question is, aren't the Nets slipping down that rabbit hole also by giving up a boat load of future prospects -picks- in exchange for the hope that KG and Pierce have one last wind of defiance in the face of father time's ravages.
Like you I think management in the past has been short sighted and more knee jerk in reaction to the appearance of team building and competitiveness. But this time out I think Grunwald has done a yeoman's job of rounding out a cap strapped team w/ quality players that provide depth and options at almost every position.
Sure the East is tougher. But the Knicks are deeper and built this time out to better withstand injury and w/ Bargnani, Udrih, Metta, and the returning cast have a nice blend of players to address or create match up problems as needed. Biggest question is whether Woody can make good use of the rotation assembled to take the Knicks deep into the playoffs.
@Knicks Fanatic 1994, Knix are bought by the Dolans, 1999, Young Prince James takes over #1 spot/in charge.What have we had since then.WellSI voted him worst owner in pro sports, yada,yada.Bottom line, he's not smart enough to be a winner.He should simply step away as the Maras did with the Giants and hire professional management.He chased Walsh out in a nasty fashion and look what Donnie has built in Indy.If Dolan had stepped away and concerned himself with counting his money we would have a very good team,perhaps not great, but very good.If all you want is excitment, flash and dash this years Carmelo led team is fine.But it is not built for the playoffs.That much is clear.A fifth or sixth best in the east is realistic.I wish it wasn't but it is.
Bk is a mystery wrapped in Ben Gay.Old guys need to get to the playoffs healthy and rested.Can Kidd pull this off limiting Garnett and Pierce's minutes?Well he saw what happened with the Knix so he is forewarned.It will take a perfect storm for BK.But it is possible.The knix don't have the bones.They rebound poorly, break down defensively and shoot way to many J's, No low post game without Amare (Let's not go there.Great heart betrayed by his body) and without Kidd suspect consistent point play.
15 plus years of Dolanite and Carmelo throwing up J's with a damaged shoulder is what we have to show for it.Back up the truck.And you want to know if Bk will draw interest in NYC.Why the Fycke not?
That said, LGK
@Tman Have you really internalized all the self hate, vitriol and self loathing spoon fed to the masses of Knicks fans by a sports media that places the burden of proof, persuasion and has deemed NY's Knicks guilty untill proven innocent.
You know me and where I stand w/ the organization's past miscues. I've written about it ad nauseaum. But all that said, I am through thick and thin- yes I ought to have my head examined- a die hard Knicks fan. I'd like to think I'm objective and that's why I've grilled them when I thought they were mismanaged and desperate. But I also notice that this recent vintage of the Knicks is an example of a yeoman GM's solid efforts at crossing that great abyss created by Melo's arrival and more directly the 2010 debacle.
The Knicks continue to pay for not having the inside scoop and super friend recruiter that Miami had in Wade and Riley's championship charms. The Knicks in good faith believed "the plan boss, the plan" would net them a Superstar. It didn't. I netted them a solid player on the decline that became a recruiter and bridge to a healthier and more capable marquee player. I've reflected on it alot. Though Amar'e at best may be a reserve now who may be able to spark a 2nd unit in limited minutes. His arrival simulated in NY what a team like the Rocket's had this year when they landed Howard. A marquee (at the time) draw who could sell a recruit interested in NY on the prospect of forming a strong tandem. No it was not quite as fortuitous, nepharious or Machiavelian as Miami but It landed NY a building block Marquee player that has been built around solidly though not exceptionally. But who could build better given the cap strapping paid for stumbling in the real abyss of 2010 when Lebron laughed at the Knicks w/ his super friends and the Knicks were left holding a bag of a defiant Amar'e on his last legs. The Knicks are near to crossing that abyss. They have a solid and deep team. They have vets but vets less aged by time that last years vintage. Their acquisitions fill match up issues that emerged in last years playoffs. Most importantly, the Knicks after a two year window of solid construction and perhaps a deep playoff run or two can make a pitch in 2015 to no longer being a laughing stock dependent on Kings call but rather a going into 2015 they can project to would be free agents as an organization that turned the corner to some degree with the proof in the pudding of abundant cap space, a marquee draw to pair up with and a re polished track record of better play and playoff showings.
The future may not be certain, in term of title aspirations but the team constructed can contend and with a good bounce here or there, solid coach that manages and harmonizes- what I and many others see as a diverse set of strenghts- a title run is not out of the question.
Hope to hear from you and KF soon. Cheers fellows!