The Nuggets, are asking for three starters - including Danilo Gallinari and Raymond Felton - plus Eddy Curry's expiring contract and at least one first-round pick. In that proposed deal, Anthony and veteran point guard Chauncey Billups would be coming to the Knicks. Billups contract is a team offer next year and can be bought out for 4 Million. Big shot for Felton is a no brainer if you want to advance in the playoffs THIS YEAR! The tandom of Melo and Amare can take Moz & little played Anthony Randolf
to another level. The most important aspect of this senario is we keep our prized rookie Landry Fields. A starting lineup of Billups, Fields, Moz/Randolph Amare and Melo pose a threat to even the mighty Celtics. Keep in mind we can give a 2014 1st rounder as any team with Amare and Melo will be picking in the late 20's no matter what!
Billups expiring gives us some cap in the future for a replacement PG. This new team will have 29 games to gel and be a very, very dangerous team to face in the playoffs!
The Mind of Isiah, everything you need to know about the Knicks' future.
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The KnicksFanatics faithful have responded here as expected. True to Steady form, this message is being sent to Mike 'Amphony and Chief Ironside:
Stick to your principles gentlemen. If the owner of the flagship franchise choses (in a Steinbrenner fashsion) to overrule your position about the Denver request of the Knicks for Carmelo and Chauncey, then march right in to Mr. Dolan's office at Mecca and slam your resignations on his desk. Mike will give you a hand as you rise to show emphasis.
You both have good reasons to walk away right now. The NYK have been fleeced in every transaction since you got here Donnie and your honest Don face was needed to placate a rabid/racist MSM and fan base who erroneously believed that there was a correlation between ABS and IT. There was none and that is why MSG was found liable, not IT.
Mike, your SOP otherwise known in these here parts as SSOM has been known to be entertaining and good for getting platers paid. Beyond that, IT is clear that you will not have the tools you like to have going forward. You made a promise to your boy about protecting his son in the NBA and now must go your separate ways. If you play your cards right, there are three teams that will be looking for an X-O-checker. Here's a tip: Don't call WWW or Leon Rose because of that water is poisoned by your pouting and childish treatment of Eddy Curry, Roger Mason, and Anthony Randolph.
Furthermore, this New York thing was never for you Mike so leaving now will allow you time to find your D. Those summavabeaches in NY took it from you after the first season after watching your teams play. Those are some covetous types out there in the Big City so don't be surprised that they're looking at the next Jump Off or Chick-on-da-side to replace the pieces you've inflated with faux stats.
Don't hang your heads gentlemen, you did what you thought was best but IT is a BuSiness--nothing personal. Ask Jerry.
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Big talk from Dever, guys with their asses against a cold hard wall!
Felton for Bigshot, they owe us, Chauncey is older, but still serviceable with bench help.He upgrades everyone where Felton, a warrior given, doesn’t.Amare rises to MVP candidate with Chauncey’s ability to make superior plays.Remember what Coach K said about him this last summer.That’s his history.The tuff nut is Gallo +Chandler (Fields is not on the table for any sane basketball man).That may be Denver’s endgame.Give us Fields + bennies and you can keep Chandler and Gallo.Frankly, I like Chandler more than Gallo.He does more things.But Walsh has to play his cards close to his chest.He will have to give one of these two, not both.With Melo coming in Gallo is expendable at the 3, but D’Agodfatha won’t let Young Gallo go so easily.Let him grow up some more Uncle Mike.Cream rises wherever.Gallo will do fine in Denver.Funny how Mike said the other day, “Let Donnie do the GMing, and I’ll do the coaching”.That’s not what he is DOING today.Melo seems to be holding fast, Donnie knows this game.If Dolan doesn’t mess this up Melo and Chauncey Gardiner will be “Being There” for a playoff push that will delight and amaze a two decades worth of Knick fans that have never experienced the Truth!LGK PS.Make no mistake about this.If Fields is somehow traded I’M DONE!
Despite the allegations that Melo woud accept a deal to the Nets (Vecsey) or Chicago (Lawrence), or even "mull consideration" to signing an extension with Denver, I have to believe his first and preferred option is the Knicks and an immediate opportunity to bring his game to the Mecca. That Dolan has become involved, is a message to Melo that (1) the Knicks are serious about wanting him now; (2) that money is ultimately no object regarding Melo's future and (3) that Jimmy D,, not Walsh or D'Antoni, will make this decision.
I would prefer to keep Felton and leave Billups in Denver, but if that is what it takes to bring the Melo man to N.Y., then I would pull the trigger. Billups can probably teach Douglas more about floor generalship and other teamates about team-first, locker room leadership as well as anyone in the league. He is a first-rate competitor, a court-conscious distributor and still has the "Big Shot" at crucial game moments, even if he cannot put in the same minutes as in the past.
Nothwithstanding Peaceman's post above, I am not convinced that Anthony Randolph will remain on the roster after a trade for Melo. Denver has insisted on attaining a No 1. draft choice, and AR has been offered to any team (most likiely Minnesota) willing to exchange a No 1. Even if the Knicks manage to keep him, will "D'Adamantoni" move him from the bench to the court?
Both Felton and Gallo have been playing as if they have been reading some belated memos about being traded, and their sense of distraction seems clearly evident. Gallo's 3 ball game has been noticeably missing. Chandler has also been less than explosive, but that may be partially attributed to his calf inury. He seemed, however, to find some energy in the game against the Nets. Wil "Thrill" is another player I hope we can retain.
At any rate, I doubt that any resolution of the Melo drama will be announced, even if accomplished, before the All Star game on the 20th. If we hear about a leak leading to an announcement on the 20th, you will know that Stern is pulling that string, seeking to build a bigger audience (as in "the Decision") for the ESPN/TNT television and advertizing exposure.
If there is no trade made by the 20th, then Denver will likely wait until the 24th, before acquiescing to the best offer it can attain.
Hopefully, the Knicks can at least stay focused for the game against Atlanta on Wednesday night. LGK
Good for you!Check the record, that's the deal I proposed a few days ago and yeah, Mikey ain't buyin' it for familla reasons.Fact is you can always buy a shooter!I'm sure Denver wants Fields, but apparently they have been forced into settlement mode by Donnie and possibly D'Olan.This deal will be made if it has Zeke's stamp on it.First, Carmelo comes, then Zeke, and this may signal the departure of D'Vanilli, after all what is SuperMario Bros. without Mario and Luigi?Make that deal.With Mr. Big Shot as a fill in for a year it's not that bad, in fact it is good, very good.Chauncey will pick up everyone's game at least one level.He did it everywhere he's gone.Think about Amare and Fields, even Mosgow at the next level.That's scary.Think DeBusherre to the Knicks trade on a smaller level.D'o it, D'Olan, d'o it!
Hmmm.... Hmmmmmm.................. If that's the asking price I do the deal. Throw in BIll Walker to make em happy. Hope we can keep Chandler and Fields to play w/ Big Shot, Melo, STAT, Mozzy and Fields. Randolph if he isn't trade should stay, if not next season get a coach who can make use of his full arsenal. I'm tired of D'Amphony.
I'm sure you've also read, D'Antoni is holding up the deal b/c he doesn't want to trade away his young gun. Though, I hear Dolan can overul Walsh and D'Antoni. If he does and Gallo goes, hopefully D'Yphsyt does as well! Ta ta Mr. Mustache!
@Tman Yes, Walsh should get credit to now. But if no Melo deal gets done?
@Steady Gallo going kills two birds w/ one trade. Sends a rooster to the mile high and may send a dodo bird of a One Trick Phony head coach outta town. ta ta Mr. Mustache! Ta ta!
@LFJeremy @Peaceman Therein lies the Steady point JMatt. IF D'Antoni was a great coach as you proclaim (using the 5 points which Steady countered with real/universally accepted criteria) then you would not have to say "IF he can develop TWO solid perimeter defenders". Great=HOF coaches do that. The chip has not been at Mecca for many seasons and reasons. And yes, there are examples of great coaches and players who are not HOF and never won the chip. Look into the coaches' pedigree when they don't hae a chip in their CV. Steady says that you will find all the elements enumerated in the list provided. Argue about D'Amphony as a great communicator and the player he made better as a result of his "coaching". Jab-step back from the bunk that 'Amphony is a great coach or simply take a Just Bloguin. You know what's good.
Steady as IT goes.
@LFJeremy @Peaceman All those points you raised JMatt and no chips? Clearly the NBA is not about the regular season and percentages but about the chip--ITs called the chip here aka "the shiny stuff" or the championship. Who is Marv Levy? Who is that great QB out of Buffalo who always went to SB and never won? What was John Elway until he finally broke through that wall and won the chip in Denver? NYers and Mecca is about what you have done lately. NYers and Mecca is about a Defensive presence. There are at least 10 games this season where the poor rotation of players, standing there with his arms crossed on the sidelines, and just "aw-shucks-ing" his way through the game caused his team a loss. A great coach does not do that. No way covetous but Pops in San Ant called a timeout within the first 29 seconds just to correct the energy level and lackaidasical play. That is a great coach. Correct on the fly and early--but not like Girardi in NY, Buck Showalter of the O's or the ABS HOF Coach who over-coach.
As a professional and coach, Steady submits these attributes among others of a GREAT coach:
1. Achieves maximum performance from his team at ALL times.
2. Communicates effectively with his team and inspires them as a leader would in their daily process (in-game play).
3. Always coaches to win and for success as opposed to coaching not to lose or not to fail.
4. Teaches, guides, instructs and puts team members in a position to maximize on their strengths.
5. WINS the biggest prize and passes the glory to the team instead of loses and passes the blame to the team from their lack of effort or team play.
Mecca and NY have known one of those types described above and one just recently pulled off his second great heist in the NBA. Both ratted on NY and went on to win the chip at their next destination. For 50 of your points, I could tell you who those great coaches are. Now you know what's good.
Steady as IT goes!
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@LFJeremy @Peaceman JMatt--there are some Bloggas here who simply write straight up and others who write in codes and inuendos. ITs all in fun. Steady is a Bloguin character who writes in third person codes, puns, and metaphors just to make things interesting. The concept Just Bloguin was created for bloggers who chose to post stuff that would otherwise qualify as bunk or hyperbole. So the comment was intended to get more info from you on how you can say that D'Antony "is a great coach". Surely you're kidding right?
@LFJeremy @Orange_and_Blue Steady is still looking through the DNA of your post JMatt. Where's your Just Bloguin? There's another perspective on the current coach below (see the Mubarak reference). IT is not sure about which coach you may be calling great when his teams seldom keep teams at 90 points or lower. How does that make a coach who's D and fugazy ways caused him to be renamed at Mecca GREAT?
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@Peaceman @LFJeremy IT is more likely to bring back Earl Barron who finished strong last year. Movement of players from the Euros is not as simple as moving them from the NBDL. They are under contract with teams that needs them and must compete to complete their season. The real problem here is that there's a Mubarak at Mecca--stubborn, defiant, dictatorial, unwilling to change, unimaginative, unwilling to coach the right way or a new set of players. Well we all know what happened to Mubarak. If the Mecca denizens could get the same Facebook and Twitter movement going in NY then the outlook would be bright.
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@LFJeremy I like the assessment. It does at the end of the day turn on whether a semblance of solid defense can be build under D'Antoni's coaching stewardship in NY.
@LFJeremy JMatt what's your opinion of D'Antoni as long term solution for the Knicks as head coach. I thought I'd ask a Spurs fan who knows a thing or two about his team exploiting Mr. Mustache's weaknesses as an HC.
@LFJeremy Our bench is suspect...however, Walker, Willams and Andy from the Cuse along with Turiaf and Douglas may be enough to spell the starters ...also we may call up 7 foot Jerome Jordan from Europe!
@Post_up_Prince I co sign on your assesments, Randolph's value could have been built up over the course of the season, to relieve STAT and add another value piece in a trade for Melo while preserving more of the core. Again, Walsh works to bring in potentially useful pieces but D'Opey only knows one way. That is the speed racer way. Burn em out, and leave the spare parts and boosters on the side. C'Mon, C'Mon, C'Mon, . . . Let's go, Let's go, Let's go speed racer GO! Crash and Burn!
@Tman Looks like Denver stuck their hand back in the kitty for another piece requesting a starter AND a 1st rounder. Denver will most likely never be in this position again. The managing of the whole process has been Bush League at worst and Sophmorish at best. From the leaked names, destinations and unofficial Tweets and false additions from Tyrone the tire kicker, this Melodrama has ben anticlimatic. Everybody knows that there's gonna be a happy ending somehwere--so just give it up.
Pulling a page from the MMPPM annals, look who the Lil' General has headlining the Rookie v. Sophomore challenge game. On the East he has Amare and on the West he has Carmelo. That MM suggests that Melo will be on Denver's books until after the All-Star Weekend Festivities.
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