While many analysts are suggesting that the Knicks got fleeced in the trade for Carmelo Anthony, Nuggets GM, Masai Ujiri believes that it is Denver that got "killed" in the transaction, according to NBA Fanhouse.
"We feel we got killed in the trade because we lost a couple of pretty good players. Obviously, Carmelo Anthony. I feel sad for the city of Denver. I feel bad that this was done on my watch. To lose a guy like that. And also Chauncey (Billups). But I think we had to do it.'' Ujiri told a reporter.
Ujiri certainly wasn't as down on the players he got from the Knicks as he was lamenting the loss of the two players he lost in Anthony and Billups. He said,
"We believe in the young kids we got. (The Nuggets) really like Danilo, we love Chandler, we love Felton and Mozgov has great upside and so does Koufos. And we really believe in those guys. But we lost a superstar, and superstars are hard to find in this league and in any sport. Chauncey and Melo were the ultimate. They brought smiles and excitement and greatness to this basketball organization... (But) do I feel that there's a future here? Absolutely.''
As you watch Carmelo Anthony preserve a game, as the best player on the floor at the end against the Bucks while the other superstar Amare Stoudemire is on the bench, you can understand why Ujiri is so upset at losing Melo. However, it is unlikely that any general manager could have done better than Ujiri in cushioning the blow. At the end of the day, the Nuggets wound up with Wilson Chandler, Timofey Mozgov, Danilo Gallinari, Raymond Felton, Kosto Koufos (from Minnesota), a 2014 first-round pick, 2012 and 2013 second-round picks, $3 million from the Knicks and trade exceptions worth nearly $20 million.
If the Nuggets got "killed," that is one helluva spectacular way for a GM to get knocked off. Don't you think so?
Masai Ujiri appears to be a very savvy young GM. He's saying they got killed but he also want to do an Irish Jig or cartwheels or whatever feels right to him at the moment. (Cha Cha Slide?) He's setting the table for the future negotiations. If this is a deal that he feels hosed on then what will satisfy him? He can't go around bragging or he'll get lowballed next time. He knows that given the circumstances he worked out a pretty damn favorable trade for his side even though it's never easy to let go of players like Chauncey and Melo
Too early to say who got killed and who got over. Nuggets are playing victim role. Under-promise and over-perform. An old game that is unusual in today’s culture. However, acquiring Deron Williams would have been getting over. D'Antoni will have to tweak the offense because you have two ballstoppers, Stats and Carmelo, but only one ball. I still believe that Douglass may be the key. If he can play with Billups and give you that spped guy with the rock, he keeps Stats rolling for easy ones, which will keep him happy. Stats has to be fed, or he will sulk.
Trades, Trades, & Trades
It appears that teams are just changing spare parts for spare parts. Are there any trades under the Radar (not Melo or Deron) that matter? Yes Danny boy got a steal in acquiring a young versatile forward in Jeff Green for Perkins(over-rated and injured) & Nate. He’s got young legs and knows how to play the game. That's a good long-term move for the Celts and Green. Hmmm...Green on Green
Has Peace recovered from his Party?
Was Barf imitating Dross?
Real GM reports that Knicks made no more trades before the 3:00 p.m. deadine passed. See: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/211423/No_More_Trades_For_Knicks
Knicks desperately need a big center to sub for either Stoudemire or Turiaf. At this point, if the Knicks are to find a big from either the waiver wire (Earl Barron?) or from the D League, or from Europe (Jerome Jordan?) or even from the playgrounds, they will have to buy out someone's contract--the most likely candidates being Renaldo Balkman or Anthony Carter. Hopefully, they can keep Balkman--but he is not known to be a D'Antoni favorite.
a little random, I know, but interesting nonetheless....anyone else completely oblivious as to there being a "minimum salary" level????
check it out:
After trading Carl Landry to the New Orleans Hornets for Marcus Thornton – and cutting $2.2 million from their cap in the process – the Sacramento Kings have a cap figure of just under $43 million. Why is this notable?
The NBA has minimum salary as well as a salary cap and a luxury tax level, but it's something rarely discussed because most teams are at the cap or higher. It's 75% of the cap figure, and this year 75% of $58.044 million is $43.533 million.
The Kings? They sit about $700k below that.
What that means is they will get charged the difference between their final cap figure and $43.533 million at the end of the year – a team spends 75% of the cap figure no matter what.
No other team is remotely close to this situation. The only teams with any cap space at all are (estimated):
Chicago - $3.4 million Cleveland - $5.4 million L.A. Clippers - $4.4 million Minnesota - $4.0 million Oklahoma City - $700k Sacramento - $15.2 million
Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18860#ixzz1EtvJ6Y2S
This Ujiri dude is good, must have studied MJ.Pats you on the ass while pickpocketing your wallet.A good trade helps both sides, no problem with that.It was pretty obvious we could have used Moz last night.Reinforcements in the middle had better be on the way or the fickle Gardeneers will be calling for Smello blood before long.Mike did not look happy at all.These guys pound the rock too much.Fields feasts on ball movement, he looked lost.Yeah it is too soon to abandon ship but some bailing might help.Love Chauncey, definite upgrade but can't pound the rock forever and must get ball movement.Never heard No'D say the emphasis must be on D.He sees no boardwork, a slower pace less outside shooting.This could be his end unless he can get some board help and increase tempo.Defense is another way to create same with turnovers.Tony looked good out there last night, but can he deliver like that every night?We all know the answer to that.The answer lies in two places.First immediate help off the boards.Second the ability of Billups to turn up the offensive screws and get this team toplay faster and efficiently.That's a very delicate balance when you have guys who thrive on the iso.Not impossible, delicate.On the positive side Billups is still an elite brain in an older body so there is hope.Another coach might change strides and style and create a defensive philo, that's not gonna happen here no matter what comes out of D'Ants mouth.So Donnie, the Maligned Man is gonna need to come up with something quick.Zeke has to be laughing his ass off.D'Ant has to play D to win and Donnie needs to come up with quick help.This will eventually may be a recipe for rescue.The Lone D'ranger just may be impatiently waiting in Florida for a quick playoff exit.Donnie goes, Zeke flows.Enuff about that situ, I'm gonna try to enjoy Melo's flow, Chauncey's go and see if Magic can happen.
Have to admit, loved the Net's move on Derron.What the hell happened there?Sounds like Garnett/Gasol all over again.Ridiculous trade from out of left field.Love Chauncey, but this kid is still a kid.He would have been a perfect fit.What up Donnie?Don't mistake the carping.Love Carmelo's talent, doubt D'Ant's ability to blend this team in the short term.I actually hope I'm wrong.LGK
I see this Joint is Jumping... As it should be... I watched this news conference on NBA TV and the poor Brother had to explain himself when he stated, "They Got Killed in the Deal.' And, he is right, because losing Melo & CBillups is a major lost for the Nuggets. When you lose a Top Ten Player and your team leader, those are two huge capping holes in your team....
Peaceman you called it and I know you're excited... We all are at this juncture... Last night's game illustrates why the best teams have Multiple stars... We stil have a few holes to fill, but this Surge of Energy and Excitement is Good for Knick Fans, Good for Baskeball, and the Big Native Chief 'Lots of Dough' is hanging out with the Lil General and he is smiling all the way to the bank... The Lil General is going to make sure the Clientele has the Best Play-Off Season in quite sometime, so they can keep us salivating for more while they Shut the Puppy Down for a few...
On to Cleveland, and then MIAMI & ORLANDO.... It ought to be entertaining to say the least...
Keep it POPPIN...
50 more Million for Melo!
Lives... please find a way to put this Knick Promo somewhere here on the blog for reference
@AaronHodges Yes bad reps can result from being braggadosho or overstated. Recall that while for some time Kevin Pritcharf, formerly of the Trailblazers juked some GMs, his antics caught up with him. Believe me other GMs are on notice in dealing with Ujiri going forward.
@Statesman How did BARF imitate Dross?
Live long and Prosper!
@Orange_and_Blue @Post_up_Prince Balkman would probably benefit from a stint in the D League where he could work on both his overall game and, above all, his shooting. His energy on D and his run-the-floor intensity has always been there. If D'Antoni insists on cutting him to make room for Jeffries or Barron or both, perhaps the Knicks could buy out his contract, arrange for him to hook up with a D League team nearby his home, have him workout with a shooting coach in the summer, and invite him to training camp next year if he shows progress.
@Post_up_Prince Yeah, Balkman is not a D'Antoni guy. I think part of it is that he's not a great shooter. He was exciting when he first started out. But what happened, he seems to be happy just puffing the dragon. He's got the athletic ability and can handle. Why it isn't in himr or the staff to work with the man is something I'd like to know.
@Orange_and_Blue @LFJeremy It was a mixed up game, everyone wants what they want for as little possible, Nuggs wanted everything, Knicks wanted to give a contract they wouldnt resign anyways, Nets wanted to screw NY even if they didnt get melo by driving up the price, and melo refused to sign with anyone else but met with the nets and let the knicks think he may resign with denver or accept a trade to the nets if NY didnt show they wanted him too because he wanted the trade now and didnt want to keep running the risk of NY lowballing Denver, because he wanted NY but his money too. And in the end, everyone and no one got what they wanted, NY has 2 stars and spaces they can replace in the offseason, lost potential but it wasnt proven and even if CB has 2 to 3 years in his tank thats 2 to 3 years of the most proven player on NY - Finals MVP, only player w a ring, 8 times conf. finals. So getting him with NY 2 stars and more cap space than Miami the offseason will see holes filled and NY start to show real potential. Denver has young players, but they wanted more, but hell who doesnt - some of the trade speculations were dreams on all sides from all teams. Melos in NY with Stat and brought CB along as he wanted, his wife is happy, he is happy - so now its time to focus on what was gained and not lost, its better than we think, we just want our cake and to eat it too, and since Melo is the star athlete who puts in the actual work he is the only one who got his cake and is eatin it.
@LFJeremy Nah JMatt, I think Ujiri doesn't want to come off as cocky or a slickster. Other GMs are on notice with how much the Knicks gave up to get Melo, when compared to how much the Nets did to get Williams. Ujiri may be tabbed with the Pritchard type shark label and other GMs will proceed w/ caution.
Every action has an equall and opposite reaction.
@BARF Didn't know that. So it is possible to underspend in the NBA.
@Lives Thanks lives...
@Peaceman I added it to the Vodpod on the front page. It will stay up for a little while.