Before I get into the recent news regarding Shawne Williams' decision to join the soon-to-be Brooklyn Nets, I would like to introduce myself to all you Knicks fans out there. I'm Ciaran from London and have been a Knicks fan since 2009. Now aged 17 (as of Saturday), my love for the Knicks grew substantially with the arrival of Amar'e Stoudemire last season, who I now consider to be my sporting hero. After creating my own Knicks blog back in October – the Mecca of Basketball- I am now here writing for Knicks Fanatics.
Anyway, back to Shawne Williams.
The three-point marksman has decided to join Deron Williams and the New Jersey Nets on a two-year $6 million deal, a full $2 million more than the Knicks were offering, also including an opt-out clause at the conclusion of this season. After the news that Jamal Crawford has also spurned us, for the Portland Trail Blazers, a lot of Knicks fans are worried about the void left on the bench,
They shouldn't be.
As good as Shawne Williams was last season (and believe me, I love his tough style of play), he is not really that important to the team's success. Yes, he spreads the floor and yes, he is versatile but we shouldn't make too much of a deal out of this. To be honest, New Jersey will lose out more by starting Williams than we will by not having him our bench.
Right now, the Knicks roster probably has enough shooters to get by, especially considering that STAT & 'Melo will be contributing 50 points between them night in and night out. Mike Bibby, for all the laughs he received playing for the Heat last season, shot a fantastic 45% from deep whilst in Miami. Along with him we have Landry Fields, who, despite his second-half slump, still managed to post up a three-point percentage just 0.08% behind Shawne's. Even Toney Douglas, who people have recently dismissed as 'just a shooter' since it became clear that he may be starting this season, can be a solid three-point shooter for the Knicks.
Again, Shawne's versatility may be missed by the Knicks, but now that we know his shooting can be replaced we can move on to replacing the other parts of his game; the defense and the rebounding.
There are certainly other players out there who can fill his role as a back-up power forward. Kenyon Martin and Kris Humphries come to mind when looking for guys who may sign the $4 million contract we offered Williams. K-Mart has already said that he would be happy to take a lower contract to have another shot at a championship; the only problem there might be buying him out of his contract in China. As for Kris Humphries, he has seemingly disappeared from the free agency market following his divorce from Kim Kardashian and, now that he has been replaced by 'Extra E' in New Jersey, he is there for the taking. 'The Incredible Humph' had a breakthrough season last year, averaging a double-double from the Nets' starting power forward position. With that rate of production off of the bench for New York, he can certainly replace Shawne Williams.
At the end of the day, it's sad to see Shawne go and to let Jamal slip away but, really, with the core of players we have, there are enough cheap free agents we can plug in around our superstars to make things work. Shawne Williams isn't the be-all and end-all.
NY Post today
"In a foreshadow for the club’s next free agency, Walsh said after the Finals, “You really need all the pieces or roles filled to win a championship. The stars do what they do. They score. But a lot of the basketball game is being won by the guys that fill in the blanks. We need those guys.’’
Ring-a-ling-a-ring! ITs a triangle's ding. Sounding off bringing A-Doouble here to defend his blog honor. Et tu O&Brutus!
hey we have someone who will start shooting the 3, we don't need another SG, he'll be money from the arc, 40-45% lol
Welcome Ciaran my dude.. I'm Jsmoov and in the words of Peaceman I have the voice that reminds him of Isiah Thomas (not sure if I should take that as a compliment lol) But I'm a die hard Knicks fan along with you and hopefully we can continue to build on this foundation we have so we can go get that first championship since the early 70's (damn near 40 yrs!!) lets get it, LGK
Good piece. I'm more disappointed in Shawne's decision than I am concerned about the loss of his services. He gave us 7pts a game. Okay...big deal. Now he's also being heralded for his defensive prowess on what was considered one of the worst teams on the defensive end while he was here. Give me a break. He's a one dimensional player on offense and a mediocre defender with a lot of character and heart. That about sums it up. Now don't get me wrong, I liked Shawne, but it's not a huge loss. However, I am disappointed that a guy whose career was close to flat lining before the Knicks threw him a lifeline, would abandon ship to play for our cross river rivals who also cut him in the past. When they didn't believe in him, the Knicks did. Was it for more money? Was it for more playing time? Was it because he felt disrespected because a cash strapped team had to wait to see if a more talented player was available before they offered the last bit of money they had to him? Was it all of the above? I don't know and I really don't care. Based on what the Knick organization did to revive his career, they deserved more. As fans who rooted for Shawne to finally reach his potential and prove the naysayers wrong, we deserved more. Shawne knew what he was doing by going to play for the Nets of all teams.There's nothing worse to me than disloyalty. So from now on, as far as basketball is concerned, "You're dead to me, Shawne!" I said it in my best Al Pacino voice. Outside of basketball, I wish you and your family the best. But on the court, you get as much love from me as Lebron hanging out at a sport's bar in Cleveland.
Folks, you can expect to see Ciaran keep us up to date with the latest news and analysis during the season. Ciaran will also grace us with some pre-game analytics, as well as join us whenever time permits from his time zone in our LBEs and the radio show.
Welcome Ciaran to La Familia. It's good to e-see you. As my colleagues stated below, "solid" work -- a well thought out, easy read.
You have been greeted by a number of the most original characters on the sportsnet (Steady, DLT, Post-Up Prince, Peaceman, Tman and Gianthinker) . There are many more warm greetings to come. One word encapsulates them all -- passionate. They love their b-ball and especially their Knicks. Steady has aptly identified himself as the spiritual guru of KFB and has just advised you that your KFB christening will happen sometime during the season when you pick up a well-deserved nickname from BARF, the Knick fan with a hard-on for the Warriors. (Now that Mark Jackson is there, BARF probably has his own satellite).
Don't mine Gianthinker. He is one of the internet old heads with a long CV (travel the NY web-sports scene and you will eventually see his happy trails) and longer memory. Most of us are well past 17 and forget it was an important step to get to the age we're at now. You're blessed. You got a whole helluva lot of Knicks B-Ball ahead of you and if you reach our age will likely see a couple more Knicks championships.
You will learn a whole lot by engaging with this crew. Stay strong. Do you. Have fun. This is definitely a great place to hone your analytic and journalistic skills. We got your back because it gets rough in here and it's our responsibility to make sure you end up better than some of our MSM (mainstream media) hacks. We got your back, but will go opps upside your head from time to time -- but don't take it too personally. Just duck, weave, skip pass and jab till your ready to knock somebody out with that uppercut.
Shawne stepped it up and played tough on both ends.He earned his respect and his money.He will be missed.Poor money management let another player skip.Numbers are largely a function of playing time.They don't measure toughness and desire.Shawne produced quality minutes when he played.So far our bench is extremely thin.That means more minutes for the starters from a Coach that has to win or get the boot.Grunwald is showing nothing but an empty wallet.lgk?
MELO not happy! Fact ..he's very upset!
Also...I think Vic Corbit came up with "Reason" about Bibby... with Lebron and Wade Ball Hogging.. Bibby was not defined with the heat!. In New York..he'll have
plenty of chances to step it up! Biologically he's not OLD! He need the "Perfect" to be a "Storm"
This is for you Ciaran..Old Skool
Welcome Ciaran, I am Peaceman...the "Oakley" of the blog. Talk to lives about me. However, you stuff is DOPE! Your conclusion is as straight as Robyn Hood's arrow "Shawne Williams isn't the be-all and end-all" Classic in your first thread! .
Well said young blood! I got your back!
Ciaran: Solid, well composed and upbeat introductory post--deserving of the Penthouse lead. Welcome to the blog. Hope you will stay with us throughout the season and contribute as the spirit moves or as the Knick basketball bounces. I agree about Shawne Williams. He would have been nice 6th man to have on the bench, coming in to shoot 3's from the corner, and adding defensive effort, but the Knicks can find a capable replacement, either from the free agent market, via a trade, or maybe from the invitees to training camp. Good luck Shawne--we hardly knew ye. As for the Knicks, lets just look forward and move on. LGK
Welcome abroad Cairan.
I think that the role Williams filled for the Knicks was that of a stretch four who could defend the four and five and at times three. What I will miss most from him is the toughness he brought. The Knicks don't really have alot of that in my humble opinion and the Eastern conference will be a battle for the top. I see you're point that a smart targeted signing can help offset the loss of Willliams in terms of his grit and ability to defend the 4-5 at times. Actually, as off as it sounds, a Kris Humpries signing for the Knicks would be a nice touche at the Nets. Moreover, he would provide rebounding, which was a huge deficiency for the Knicks. He's younger than KMart and recall him becoming a smarter player on offense who played within his limits. I think I would pursue him. KMart is the 2nd option. But I like his energy and his ability to mix it up, which would also help offset the loss of Williams grit.
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Strictly "Bidniss"! Ownership should not feign one bit of remorse because loyalty is a sword that cuts one way--away from the one hand clutching on the handle. Sure Ironside (Donnie Walsh to newbies aka Turtle Walsh) initiated the "Reclamation Project" bringing Shawne back from the Dead (so named by O&B) and into Mecca. But that too was a self-serving act because the low risk move (which in foresight yielded high reward) served to burnish Ironside's draft record (which is still pale compared to IT).
No sources or sauces; and no connects other than the coolest cat in La Familia--but IT may have gone a lil' sum'n like this:
Un-Happy Walters still reeling over the offer of Fantastic I (STAT) to NOH for CP3(0 he ain't coming yet) and the Mr. Big Shot (CBillups) amnesty decides that he's just gonna go for his commish and steer Shawne from the death in Mecca to the NJNots for a bit more gravy. Ciroc, Grey Goose or Jack Daniels--pick your poison. They picked the former as the latter sings the Blues.
Steady ring-a-ling-ding for an EF Hutton type on the player recruitment trail. Where's your dignity? Grown@$$ men don't grovel!!
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Vetted by Lives and supported by Steady....The Spiritual Guru of La Familia will chime in with his blessings and the resident Namer BARF will officially dub thee. Meanwhile, Welcome young-buck "Go-Geda" until your real name settles in. Thanks for taking us on Ciaran.
Steady as IT goes ring-a-ling-a-ding!
@Jsmoov24 Thanks Jsmoov - I'd like to think me becoming a Knicks fan is what triggered this whole transformation.
@Jsmoov24 IT WAS A COMPLIMENT Jsmoov24..
Nicely put regarding the choice to go to our hated cross rive rivals the Nyets.
"Based on what the Knick organization did to revive his career, they deserved more. As fans who rooted for Shawne to finally reach his potential and prove the naysayers wrong, we deserved more. Shawne knew what he was doing by going to play for the Nets of all teams.There's nothing worse to me than disloyalty. So from now on, as far as basketball is concerned, "You're dead to me, Shawne!" I said it in my best Al Pacino voice. Outside of basketball, I wish you and your family the best. But on the court, you get as much love from me as Lebron hanging out at a sport's bar in Cleveland." @DouglasFresh
@Lives On that note, what time do you broadcast the radio shows?
@Lives Steady steers clear away from Spiritual Guru status and no-look passes to the Blogga CooleyHigh. Now that's a Spiritual Blogga from another beautiful mother. Question remains--business must be good to go if Admin can bring top shelf help to the Penthouse.
Steady as IT goes ringing in a New Year for NY.
I hope it's not of the bandwagon jumping variety. Anyhow how'd you get into rooting for the Knicks? I'd like to know the story. @gianthinker
@gianthinker LOL! We all started somewhere Gian or have you forgotten what you were rooting for in the womb.
@Peaceman Ahhhh stop whining. But I admit he will never get that painting I did of him in a Knick uniform now. LOL
I think this week Grunwald got his priorities crossed and reversed the good step he took a week ago. It's like the organization went two steps forward and a clutsy step back. @Tman
@Tman Hold on! Shawne was mediocre at best! You have and I have no idea what Shumpert, Jorts, Jordan, and the two picks from Dallas bring. We have to see them play before we "cry"over freak-en Shawne Williams! " O&B has told me we still have Bill Walker! If we do..that guy at 23 years old has P O T E N T I A L....
Lets do this KNICKS! We will be the ONE!
So you're saying Stud and Melo will want the ball less than LeBro and Wade?If he's doing right here he should be taking even fewer shots at the point.In Sac he was a major part of the O.He can't do that anymore.He needs to play smart and Steady the ship.Tough spot...again. @Peaceman
@Peaceman Not really feeling this, unfortunately :)
@Peaceman Thanks Peaceman, I'll keep it going!
@Peaceman I must admit that I am dying laughing. Compliments from Peaceman? That's some scary shyte from the man who was constantly trying to pimp slap A-dub (aka Aaron Hodges), who the crew I believe will agree at least held his own. Peace "Oakley" is a good ally to have though. He won't let anybody occupy your paint without some bruising.
@dltknicks Brother DLT. Great to e-see you. We look forward to having you drop those pearls on the LBE and radio show too.
@Orange_and_Blue Thank You! I completely agree with you about Humphries - I saw him at the O2 last season when he came to London with the Nets and he was dominant inside. I think he put up about 15 & 15 (albeit against the Raptors) with a chunk of blocked shots as well. Would be a great signing.
@Steady Man, you got a lot of new funny stuff in here. I'm digging this occupy Wall Street (ring-a-ling-ding goes the bell) paper (as in cash) theme running through your posts.
Picking up Shawne from the Dead was a low-risk move on Ironside's part. Still, I know you and most of us are glad for Shawne. It's hard to get second chances in public life, and like Plax, Tiger and Vick will tell you, it's even harder to succeed with a second chance, but it's so sweet when you do.
UnHappy Walters as in agent Happy Walters? very funny
@Orange_and_Blue@gianthinker Hey, I cop to bandwagon status. I was initially a Bulls fan (growing up in Chicago does that) but we would always get the Knicks game on delay and I just loved how cool some of the NY dudes were. Clyde was the man. And Willis, and Dave D, then Earl the Pearl made me sink deeper in love. It just so happens I been on the bandwagon for a longer time than some people were living. (Of course, when we've been getting our butts whipped it felt more like a paddy wagon than a bandwagon).
The point of this piece is that the toughness and other small intangible that wen with Shawne could be replaced by a good signing that takes care of other issues for the team. The Knicks have plenty of perimeter weapons. They need a rebounder and soiid defender in the post. Tyson Chandler can only do so much. Also, I'll believe it when I see it about Melo and STAT's new commitment overall and to defense in particular. But yes, sign an interior grunt to provide some muscle and rebounding for our not so deep front court. @Peaceman @Tman
@CiaranKF lol Your Parents prolly listened to that song.. it's 40 years older than you!
@CiaranKF I'm sure you will Ciaran, Good stuff.
Loyalty to who?Donnie pulled the kid off the scrap pile and gave him his shot.Look who's on the pile now in Indy?There's a lesson there.You are loyal to people, not initials.Stud, his friend, understood how Shawne was dissed $wise and gave him the nod.You never know where you'll be next year, next month, in the game.From the rocker I'm sitting in Shawne is cool with me.His heart may have been in one place but asking a second year guy to give up 3mil over 2 yrs is not realistic.His friends could have chipped in if they wanted him that bad.I was always happy with the effort he put out.Can't ask for more than that.I may not root for his team today,I might when they hit the BK, that depends, but then I'm funny like that.When someone puts it on the line for me, the respect is always there.
Cian, welcome.Can't lie I have Knick gear older than you.But new voices always bring new points of view and that is worthy.I am a Holzman admirer.You can look up who he is.He believed rookies were only good for three things, carrying bags, holding down the bench and learning how to play.I disagree.Young people who are smart have something to offer, but make sure you know what you're talking about.Then again if you just need therapy, like many of us here, just join in and get your dose.Welcome to the joint.Lets Go Knicks.
@Lives Cool, I can probably do the next three (maybe not Christmas)